Today's Modern Day Ecumenism

and

The Horrors from its evolvement

which lead to the One World Church and the One World Government

What you are going to read, some of you may have already partially viewed.  We dare say that the information may not necessarily be all that new to some of you, but new to those who have been wearing blinders as to what is going on in their so-called Christian congregations locally and around the world. 

[Ed. Note:  For some of you, you do not like to read anything lengthy.  For others, some of you find lengthy articles, even books, to be boring and to studious an endeavor.  Yet, it is by reading in depth articles that one gains a more intrinsic understanding and information.  For our students of WOTI, reading is a must; from which we (for those who have been a part of our former seminary compound) ... have found that 'fireside' chats afforded the ability to discuss such articles and obtain even further understandings both pro and con.]

What has been and is happening in these present times are the result of the actions of Satan, Lucifer, the evil One's demons of the air who infect the minds, hearts and even the very souls of those whose beliefs in the doctrines and dogmas of these so-called "Evangelicals," "Promise Keepers," "Jehovah's Witnesses," "Pentecostals," "Church of Christ," "Born Again," "Fundamentalists," and many others have indeed lead the World Council of Churches toward perdition of true "Christianity" rooted in Catholicism, as originated in, through and by that which today is known and called "Orthodoxy".  The Roman Jurisdiction of the Catholic Church is bound to Orthodoxy which is the base and root as coming from Jesus Christ, the Founder. 

Anyone who call themselves "Christian" do not necessarily recognize or relate to the term "Follower of Jesus Christ" which means to be a follower of His Life and Teachings.  This means also that in tandem with the Holy Bible, 'oral' teachings from the Patristic Fathers adds to further understanding without the misguided re-interpretations of man's misguided thoughts.

Many so-called "Christians" do not recognize or understand that the Bible came about as the result of the Church not the other way around which many believe, errantly so, that the Church came about as a result of the Bible.

Many so-called "Christians" do not recognize nor wish to believe the truth about the fact that there are two traditions; one Oral and one Written.  The Oral is that which was passed by Jesus Christ to the Holy Apostles who passed them on down through time and history to many of those whom we today call "Patristic" Fathers of the Church.  If one recalls what is in the Bible, it clearly says that if all the things were to be written (about Jesus Christ's ofe and teachings), it would not be enough for it would more than encompass the world. 

Yet, while time and history record the fact that the Holy Bible as it is viewed today came about as a result of the Holy Apostles and Saints, so too has other Oral traditions come to us through time and history which are not necessarily recorded in the Holy Bible although their (the Oral) relevance is linked to the Holy Bible either by inference or other means.  Was it not Jesus Christ Himself who often spoke of "Ears to hear and Eyes to see?"  Indeed He did!  And it is a fact that many of the saints also referred appropriately in the same fashion. 

Today though we have far too many so-called Christians claiming that the Holy Bible is the only source and nothing else is acceptable.  They are primarily those of the so called "Evangelical" movements who are far from being the kind of "Evangelical" as the leaders in ancient times were true Evangelists. 

The Evangelicalism seen today is so far removed from that which existed in ancient times that the minds and hearts of many their followers are mesmerized with false information and understandings which has lead to the creation over time of that which we see happening as exampled in the form of Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentecostals, including the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), Church of Christ and others as well as the Council of Churches and the World Council of Churches. 

The leaders, pastors or ministers of these so-called "Evangelical" churches do not want anyone to know the truth because they themselves do not know or want to accept the truth of the roots of Christianity because of the material goals involved (gold, silver, money, land, boats, houses, self image, power, etc.)  Another reason is because that which is "Catholic" is often misunderstood as being "Roman" which is only a part of the "Catholic Church". 

An example might be that of a Pentecostal woman whose family, including herself, used to be drug dealers but, in order to save themselves, they ensnared any and everyone they knew were drug dealers and even those who are, or were 'entertainment' users of drugs, involving them in a scam as a means to turn them over to authorities in years gone by.  Even in present times, they errantly believe that if they go after those who are staunch "Catholic" and/or "Orthodox" by any means to quiet them or put them down, like they did with drug users and dealers, it is fair game even if it goes against the true faith.  They believe Orthodox and Roman Catholics are the harbingers of evil without forethought that they are the root of Christendom which is Orthodox Catholic in spirit and truth.   To them, Christianity must be conformed to their bent way of belief and thinking and nothing will get in their way.  This would appear to be one of the root actions in the World Council of Churches.  To make all religions and all faiths One! 

[Ed. note: Might it be noted that not all members of those congregations are bad people in themselves as exampled above.  There are many Pentecostal believers and even some Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons who are actually very HONEST, GOOD people who do not necessarily believe that their congregation's members are doing right things.  Yet, the ministers and pastors of these Satanic cults who follow the heresy road of Satan's making, believe themselves above reproach which allow them to get away even with inciting others to do evil deeds, even if it is blackmail, torching or murder...

We know of several members of those so-called "christian" congregations who are owners and managers of gas stations, grocery stores and gas companies whose ideals of their congregations are not what they are supposed to believe.  In fact they are more honorable than many of their ministers and pastors. But the majority of their congregations are so enthralled with this false doctrine that they will do whatever is necessary to stop any FACTS or TRUTH from reaching the public for they see such as attacks....  Hmmmm.... ]

[Now comes those who think and believe they are "Catholic" by calling themselves "Independent Catholic" - others believe themselves "Old Catholic" and "Old Roman Catholic"... And as to those who are true to what it means to be an Old Catholic or Old Roman Catholic we must admit that the true Old Catholics and Old Roman Catholics are those like Archbishop +Andrew Berry of Canada, Archbishop +Bostwick here in the U.S.A. and several others. 

It must be remembered that while one may be a truly be ordained clergyman, priest or consecrated bishop, it is no guarantee that he is truly of the fold established and handed down through time and history to those of today as being truly Catholic Christian (Orthodox, Roman, Old Roman, Old Catholic).  What makes one TRUE is their observance in both spirit and truth, to the tenets and beliefs in daily practice, not just by words.  Thus it is to accept and practice what one's ordination and consecration (if it was truly "Catholic") requires which is the observance of the Seals of the Confessional and the Seven Ecumenical Councils.  To deny them or any aspect of them whatsoever is to deny and negate one's ordination and even one's Consecration which means they are no longer valid by any means for they have departed from that which they were foresworn to honor, respect and keep when they were ordained and/or consecrated.  True ordinations and consecrations to the episcopacy, as handed down through time and history, cannot be altered as to those requirements if one is truly Catholic (be he Orthodox, Old Catholic, Old Roman Catholic or Independent).  This is the key to who is who in the Catholic world of both the Orthodox Jurisdictions and the Roman Jurisdictions. To continue to deny those requirements, those obligations, is to deny being "Catholic" in both spirit and truth which means one is no longer, by any means whatsoever, Catholic Christian whatsoever.  Only through sincere and true repentance can one who has departed be re-accepted back into the "Catholic" fold, restoring their due and full standing.  That is forgiveness in action as required by Jesus Christ and the Holy Apostles and patristic Fathers. However, there are those who continue to deny that which they were originally ordained and consecrated to accept and observe, and thus they are no longer truly valid priests or bishops and must be rejected, if not scorned!

As an example there are those who, like +Donald Weeks [oud-katholieke-kerk@yahoogroups.com] and those who are in union with him, lock, stock and barrel; have opted for the falseness of a cafeteria styled Catholicism that allows for the inclusion of Pentecostalism attitudes and beliefs; Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses and more.  It must be noted that not all who subscribe to his yahoo group are with him in spirit or truth, but the majority are.

This is the "back-door" which Satan has taken to promote Synchrestic Ecumenism that has been, is and continues to be the destruction of Orthodox Catholic Christianity as it was handed down to us by Jesus Christ Himself, His Holy Apostles and Patristic Fathers. 

These are the "Cafeteria" Catholics who have opted to be inclusive of female priests, Pentecostalism attitudes, beliefs, Muslims and worse.  [In Muslims (Islamists) it is their belief as given by their so-called holy book (Quoran or Koran), that the next prophet of Muslims (Islamists) will be through the loins of a man... which means that during certain Muslims (Islamists)ic festivals they must attempt to impregnate (Sodomize) young boys, teenagers and under teen aged youth.... This is a fact of truth which is not told to the world populace.  This is what they do! During those certain Muslim festivals, they are required by their holy book to 'take' a youth, to sodomize him.  But, during other times of non-festival, it could be discerned by Muslims (Islamists)ic law, to be homosexual, depending upon who the Imam is that oversees the observance of their holy laws.  Yet, in many instances, such activities during non-festival times is overlooked, especially if the man caught is wealthy or has political pull, etc. - This almost sounds like the actions of some Jehovah's Witnesses and Pentecostals who abhor and deny any kind of homosexuality altogether, but who, as observant to their satanic faith, will go after those who are "Catholic" or "Orthodox" Catholic.  Because they, like Muslims (Islamists) believe their actions are a Holy Action in the name of their prophet or Messiah.] It is the aim and goal of so-called "Ecumenists" of these present times, to bring about an amalgamation of all religions and faiths no matter what they are, to be of the same idea that they worship the same God.  This is what the Independent Catholic movement and Independent movement is doing... Thus, anything which spreads TRUTH and FACT is acted against in order to silence them.  The FACTs are that the God of Islam - Muslims (Islamists) is actually Satanic.  The God of many of the Protestant Cults is not the Life and Teaching of Jesus Christ, but a pseudo-idea of what they would like Christ's Life and Teachings to be as a result of the manipulations made to the Bible.  ]

These are the things which the Independent movements are heading toward, although they will deny such.  Yet their actions, stated beliefs which discount any belief in, or practice of, the ancient Seven Ecumenical Councils... says much as to what is going on and what they are about.   For those who believe in the Seven Ecumenical Councils, some of them have opted to claim belief in them but fail or refuse to put them into practice as evidenced by the actions of the Roman Jurisdiction of the Catholic Church.

The lives of monks consist of a podvig [(spiritual) exploit] of repentance and of withdrawal from the world. They flee from judging their neighbor in his moral falls, considering themselves to be sinners and the worst of all men. But, when it is demanded of monks and other clergy, that they remain humble and indifferent to questions of faith, then do they cast off humility and obedience. It is demanded of them, by the conscience of the Church, the faith in and for the Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ that They rise up when the truth of Orthodoxy is threatened. They are supported in this by a living conscience and by a sense of responsibility for that faith, following the mandates of II Tim. 4:2-5; for which our forebears-martyrs and confessors alike-sacrificed everything, even their very lives.

As you view many of the links, there are other links within the articles to lead you to what is true and correct in the "Catholic" (Roman and Orthodox) Church which is the base or root of Christianity in both Spirit and Truth!  We are not just presenting the problem, but some of that which is the means to resolve the problem through right thinking, true belief, correct understanding.

There are those who believe that if one is a Christian, you must not be "negative".  You must not say anything about the faith of others or their so-called ministers and pastors who are shoveling out untruth about the faith. 

Well, if that were true, then Jesus Christ would not have thrown over the money changers in the temple.  He would not have rebuked Peter, and many other instances where He did, in fact, correct the falseness of the Sanhedrin and Pharisees.  Today's Sanhedrin and Pharisee are those whom we have described in part, using examples along the way to provide you, the viewer, with such as we believe is sufficient to make your own minds up as to what is true, correct and right. 

Do not get your heart broken should you continue in vain pursuit of a kind of Christianity that leads to the Whore of Babylon as described in the Holy bible. 

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