Which Version Versus whose Understanding

Which Version Versus whose Understanding - Hesychia Prayer?

Heb 11:21: The KJV translators were "Bible Correctors"

One of the most  common propoganda stunts that KJV Onlyists pull is to label anyone who does not believe in KJV inerrancy as a "Bible Corrector".  If you go quote the Hebrew text, and say, "In the Hebrew/Greek/etc it says......", and you say something in English than what the KJV says, then you are a "Bible corrector."  The logic is....
  a.. The KJV is "The Bible"
  b.. IF you think it needs correcting, then you are a "Bible Corrector"

First off, "The Bible" is not an English document. And when the KJV translators created the KJV in 1611 - some 1500-1600 years after the NT was written and 2-4,000+ years after the Tanakh was written, they corrected the Bible they translated. Let's take a look at one example.....

"Jacob...blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff" (KJV, quoting the Greek Heb 11:21)

    The KJV translators added the word "leaning", because the Greek version of Heb 11:21 really said....

  "Jacob...blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, upon the top of his staff" (KJV, quoting the Greek Heb 11:21)

Why add the word "leaning"?  Well, history tells us that the book of Hebrews was originally written in Hebrew, and this is a HEBREW BASED CORRECTION!!!!  Here's what the ancient Hebrew text of Heb 11:21 says...

  a.. "Ya'acov (Jacob) blessed the two sons of Yoseph (Joseph) and bent over (Shin Tav Chet) towards the top of his staff" (Hebrew Heb 11:21). The Hebrew word Shin Tav Chet is sometimes translated "worship" and at other times "leaning", "prostrating", etc.  The Greek reads "worshipped" matching the LXX word-for-word.  The Hebrew version matches the Masoret Tanach reading of Genesis 47:31.  The KJV apparently realized this, and inserted the word "leaning" into the text in an attempt to correct what they obviously considered a faulty Greek interpretation of the Hebrew word used in Gen 47:31!!!!   Obviously, the KJV translators felt like the Greek Heb 11:21 was wrong, and it should have read "leaning" instead of "worshipped".  Of course , they left "worshipped" in the text, because it was in the Greek text they were translating from.  And they made it clear that "leaning" was their own personal interpretation.  But by adding this, they were making themselves "Bible Correctors".  This was a blatant attempt to correct what could more rightly be called "the Bible" than the King James translation of 1611.

When KJV Onlyists begin calling people "Bible Correctors", it is mostly a smear campaign aimed at trying to intimidate you from pointing out the errors in the King James that appear in many places.  They hate it when you do that, so they jump into a smear campaign to get you to stop to make you look like an evil guy by labeling you as a "Bible Corrector", and they just won't stop until you shut up - or until you begin putting things in the proper perspective by showing where the King James translators were Bible Correctors in the correct sense of the term, because when we talk about "The Bible", we are not talking about an English language document.

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Is the monologic or hesychastic prayer possible in Syriac language?

Originally the Greek word to express the monologic prayer is hesychia which signifies "(spiritual] calm" and means a kind of "quietude in our saviour Jesus Christ" ("shayno" in syriac?), I know that Greeks and slaves, from Byzantine tradition, developed this sort of monologic prayer (Great and little Philocalia).

I know that in Greek they say "Kyrie Iesus Eleison me" or "Gie ton Theos Eleison me" continuously.

But this sort of prayer began probably with the first Syrian and maybe Coptic Christian worshipers and monks, in syriac:

"Ieshu'bro d'Aloho +Ethraham lain+ (Eno) hatoyo 'no" Jesus , son of God +Have mercy for us+I am a sinner" or more longer: "Moran Ieshu mshiho+ihidoyo bro d'Aloho+Ethraham lain+(Eno) hatotyo 'no" Barekmor+Amin+++

Our Lord , Jesus+ The only son of God+ Have mercy for us+ I am a sinner+

I think Syriac language is really a beautiful (maybe the most beautiful) language for this kind of prayer, when you are alone with Christ, it is so closer to his own (Aramaic )language it is impossible He can't hear the prayer from your heart. Syriac (Aramaic) language is fundamental to help a Christian meditation.

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